Comments on: CAAF affirms Abu Ghraib maltreatment conviction http://www.caaflog.com/2010/02/04/caaf-affirms-abu-ghraib-maltreatment-conviction/ Covering the Military Justice System Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:54:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Anonymous http://www.caaflog.com/2010/02/04/caaf-affirms-abu-ghraib-maltreatment-conviction/comment-page-1/#comment-12081 Anonymous Sat, 06 Feb 2010 13:28:15 +0000 http://www.caaflog.com/?p=4527#comment-12081 Did COL Jessup waive appellate review? I cannot find his case anywhere on NMCCAs website. Did COL Jessup waive appellate review? I cannot find his case anywhere on NMCCAs website.

]]> By: Phil Cave http://www.caaflog.com/2010/02/04/caaf-affirms-abu-ghraib-maltreatment-conviction/comment-page-1/#comment-12078 Phil Cave Fri, 05 Feb 2010 23:25:56 +0000 http://www.caaflog.com/?p=4527#comment-12078 "A few good men" is based on a case that reached the NMCCA. The appellate defense counsel in that case had a brother. She gave him the ROT and he wrote a play, which became, well . . . In the real case there was no death. So, the idea of Col Jessep did exist. “A few good men” is based on a case that reached the NMCCA. The appellate defense counsel in that case had a brother. She gave him the ROT and he wrote a play, which became, well . . .
In the real case there was no death.
So, the idea of Col Jessep did exist.

]]> By: soonergrunt http://www.caaflog.com/2010/02/04/caaf-affirms-abu-ghraib-maltreatment-conviction/comment-page-1/#comment-12077 soonergrunt Fri, 05 Feb 2010 21:45:50 +0000 http://www.caaflog.com/?p=4527#comment-12077 <blockquote cite="comment-12071"> <strong><a href="#comment-12071" rel="nofollow">Anonymous</a></strong>: Of course, Col. Jessep left the courtroom in cuffs….maybe this debate IS over? </blockquote> He also didn't, you know, <i>exist</i>.

Anonymous: Of course, Col. Jessep left the courtroom in cuffs….maybe this debate IS over?

He also didn’t, you know, exist.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.caaflog.com/2010/02/04/caaf-affirms-abu-ghraib-maltreatment-conviction/comment-page-1/#comment-12071 Anonymous Fri, 05 Feb 2010 17:35:03 +0000 http://www.caaflog.com/?p=4527#comment-12071 Of course, Col. Jessep left the courtroom in cuffs....maybe this debate IS over? Of course, Col. Jessep left the courtroom in cuffs….maybe this debate IS over?

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.caaflog.com/2010/02/04/caaf-affirms-abu-ghraib-maltreatment-conviction/comment-page-1/#comment-12070 Anonymous Fri, 05 Feb 2010 17:34:24 +0000 http://www.caaflog.com/?p=4527#comment-12070 Col. Jessep: We follow orders, son. We follow orders or people die. It's that simple. Are we clear? //Just saying... Col. Jessep: We follow orders, son. We follow orders or people die. It’s that simple. Are we clear?

//Just saying…

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.caaflog.com/2010/02/04/caaf-affirms-abu-ghraib-maltreatment-conviction/comment-page-1/#comment-12062 Anonymous Fri, 05 Feb 2010 11:54:28 +0000 http://www.caaflog.com/?p=4527#comment-12062 And why did CAAF grant this case? To restate the obvious? And why did CAAF grant this case? To restate the obvious?

]]> By: hmm http://www.caaflog.com/2010/02/04/caaf-affirms-abu-ghraib-maltreatment-conviction/comment-page-1/#comment-12061 hmm Fri, 05 Feb 2010 05:31:05 +0000 http://www.caaflog.com/?p=4527#comment-12061 What probably did exist is widespread encouragement, approval or at least acceptance of what went on. CAAF correctly holds in Smith that that doesn't raise the defense of orders. What probably did exist is widespread encouragement, approval or at least acceptance of what went on. CAAF correctly holds in Smith that that doesn’t raise the defense of orders.

]]> By: mena http://www.caaflog.com/2010/02/04/caaf-affirms-abu-ghraib-maltreatment-conviction/comment-page-1/#comment-12060 mena Fri, 05 Feb 2010 04:33:45 +0000 http://www.caaflog.com/?p=4527#comment-12060 no excuse for what happened here. No honorable service member enlisted or otherwise can do the things that transpired in this case and hide behind orders. The first thing you learn when you come into contact with military training is how to treat orders and whats legal etc. Further, its simply beyond comprehension that service members could forgo common sense no matter the orders which most of us dont believe exist. Bravo CAAF no excuse for what happened here. No honorable service member enlisted or otherwise can do the things that transpired in this case and hide behind orders. The first thing you learn when you come into contact with military training is how to treat orders and whats legal etc. Further, its simply beyond comprehension that service members could forgo common sense no matter the orders which most of us dont believe exist. Bravo CAAF

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.caaflog.com/2010/02/04/caaf-affirms-abu-ghraib-maltreatment-conviction/comment-page-1/#comment-12059 Anonymous Fri, 05 Feb 2010 04:14:19 +0000 http://www.caaflog.com/?p=4527#comment-12059 Having watched the oral argument, and watched the civilian defense counsel say (and I could be confusing this case with another that same CDC did) "I don't do floodgates" in response to a question about whether his position might open up said floodgates...I'd say that this decision was written an hour after argument, they just needed to check the spelling. Having watched the oral argument, and watched the civilian defense counsel say (and I could be confusing this case with another that same CDC did) “I don’t do floodgates” in response to a question about whether his position might open up said floodgates…I’d say that this decision was written an hour after argument, they just needed to check the spelling.

]]> By: hmm http://www.caaflog.com/2010/02/04/caaf-affirms-abu-ghraib-maltreatment-conviction/comment-page-1/#comment-12058 hmm Fri, 05 Feb 2010 04:06:19 +0000 http://www.caaflog.com/?p=4527#comment-12058 Grant review and then quote the CCA? Looks like CAAF wanted to make a historical record of this case. Grant review and then quote the CCA? Looks like CAAF wanted to make a historical record of this case.

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