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	<title>Comments on: OTH In Lieu In Pictures From Home Child Porn Case</title>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://www.caaflog.com/2010/03/03/oth-in-lieu-in-pictures-from-home-child-porn-case/comment-page-1/#comment-12527</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 23:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about this - how about NCIS stop sending its agents to hostage negotation courses, &quot;contingency operation planning,&quot; and &quot;how to wear my 5-11 pants and look really cool school&quot; and actually go after the MAKERS AND DISTRIBUTORS of CP or those that have a organized collection of CP?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about this &#8211; how about NCIS stop sending its agents to hostage negotation courses, &#8220;contingency operation planning,&#8221; and &#8220;how to wear my 5-11 pants and look really cool school&#8221; and actually go after the MAKERS AND DISTRIBUTORS of CP or those that have a organized collection of CP?</p>
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		<title>By: Atticus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Atticus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 19:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This train left the station long ago. MILJUS is the only jurisdiction not on it.  And have you ever ben &quot;curious&quot; to see these images?  Have you ever had to actually review them as a TC or DC?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This train left the station long ago. MILJUS is the only jurisdiction not on it.  And have you ever ben &#8220;curious&#8221; to see these images?  Have you ever had to actually review them as a TC or DC?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 13:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So he confessed to images that a simple forensic analysis couldn&#039;t even state were ever viewed?

Sounds like a questionable confession to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So he confessed to images that a simple forensic analysis couldn&#8217;t even state were ever viewed?</p>
<p>Sounds like a questionable confession to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Abacus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abacus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 06:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can shed some light on this one.  

The &quot;niece&quot; photo was not what the case was about.  The Soldier&#039;s roommate (who was allowed access to his computer pursuant to an informal agreement between the two) came across images of CP, informed the chain of command, and swore out an affidavit detailing what he&#039;d seen.  CID seized the computer.  SM was brought in, waived his rights, and confessed.  Subsequent forensic analysis revealed several dozen images and videos of CP.  The OTH (which I agree is rare in these cases) was likely approved for 2 reasons: (1) the SM had already been extended in Afghanistan for several months beyond his NG unit&#039;s redeployment while OSJA waited for the forensic results to come in, a fact which would likely affect the sentence; and (2) the forensic analysis could not conclusively establish that the images / videos were ever viewed by the SM.  So there were potential proof issues.  While the standard for corroboration is indeed &quot;slight,&quot; the Gov&#039;t opted not to run the risk of an acquittal, and took the bird in hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can shed some light on this one.  </p>
<p>The &#8220;niece&#8221; photo was not what the case was about.  The Soldier&#8217;s roommate (who was allowed access to his computer pursuant to an informal agreement between the two) came across images of CP, informed the chain of command, and swore out an affidavit detailing what he&#8217;d seen.  CID seized the computer.  SM was brought in, waived his rights, and confessed.  Subsequent forensic analysis revealed several dozen images and videos of CP.  The OTH (which I agree is rare in these cases) was likely approved for 2 reasons: (1) the SM had already been extended in Afghanistan for several months beyond his NG unit&#8217;s redeployment while OSJA waited for the forensic results to come in, a fact which would likely affect the sentence; and (2) the forensic analysis could not conclusively establish that the images / videos were ever viewed by the SM.  So there were potential proof issues.  While the standard for corroboration is indeed &#8220;slight,&#8221; the Gov&#8217;t opted not to run the risk of an acquittal, and took the bird in hand.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 00:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you go to the store to get sugar, you don&#039;t often come back with pot stuck in your bag.

When you surf for regular porn, you can in fact come out of it with kiddie porn &quot;stuck in your bag.&quot; I think it&#039;s a much fairer conceit to say if you possess drugs, it was probably knowing versus saying if you possess child porn, it was probably knowing minus any other evidence of an interest in child porn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you go to the store to get sugar, you don&#8217;t often come back with pot stuck in your bag.</p>
<p>When you surf for regular porn, you can in fact come out of it with kiddie porn &#8220;stuck in your bag.&#8221; I think it&#8217;s a much fairer conceit to say if you possess drugs, it was probably knowing versus saying if you possess child porn, it was probably knowing minus any other evidence of an interest in child porn.</p>
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		<title>By: MMP</title>
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		<dc:creator>MMP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 00:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should service members be allowed to smoke a little bit of pot?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should service members be allowed to smoke a little bit of pot?</p>
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		<title>By: the roflcopter</title>
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		<dc:creator>the roflcopter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 22:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too bad Dr. Government wasn&#039;t on the scene.  This robot is basically like the Ellis robot and obviously has a 36.349849% risk of recidivism!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too bad Dr. Government wasn&#8217;t on the scene.  This robot is basically like the Ellis robot and obviously has a 36.349849% risk of recidivism!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 21:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is 5 pictures really worth 5 years?  How does &quot;science&quot; actually predict what a young a soldier will or will not do in the future?  Most of our cases involve young servicemembers who download the pics from the web when they are surfing or through p2p programs, then delete them.  Most are curious.  Perhaps it is the MILJUS folks that have it right and the AUSAs who have it wrong.  Cases where there is a significant amount of CP or distribution do get significant confinement in CMs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is 5 pictures really worth 5 years?  How does &#8220;science&#8221; actually predict what a young a soldier will or will not do in the future?  Most of our cases involve young servicemembers who download the pics from the web when they are surfing or through p2p programs, then delete them.  Most are curious.  Perhaps it is the MILJUS folks that have it right and the AUSAs who have it wrong.  Cases where there is a significant amount of CP or distribution do get significant confinement in CMs.</p>
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		<title>By: Atticus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Atticus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 21:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The feds have mandatory minimums and sentencing guidelines; MILJUS does not.  Members have no idea what a child porn case is worth. They think it&#039;s just about &quot;dirty pictures,&quot; and they don&#039;t know about the psychiatric data that shows what creation/possession/distribution of CP indicates about the offender.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The feds have mandatory minimums and sentencing guidelines; MILJUS does not.  Members have no idea what a child porn case is worth. They think it&#8217;s just about &#8220;dirty pictures,&#8221; and they don&#8217;t know about the psychiatric data that shows what creation/possession/distribution of CP indicates about the offender.</p>
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