LTC Lakin and his civilian defense counsel, Paul Jensen, were on G. Gordon Liddy’s radio show today, along with WorldNetDaily poobah Joseph Farah. Here’s a link.
[Thanks to safeguardourconstitution.com, here’s a link to the interview sans commercials.]
I was surprised that I actually found the show to be interesting. I won’t give a complete play-by-play, in part because I was multi-tasking while listening, so I didn’t write everything down. But here are some of the highlights.
First, LTC Lakin himself spoke far, far more during this interview than he has during the previous media appearances by the Lakin/Jensen team that I’ve seem or heard.
The beginning of the show was dominated by discussion of the alleged threat that the trial counsel made against LTC Lakin. LTC Lakin himself described the incident. The website that supported LTC Lakin had told supporters that they could meet and speak with LTC Lakin after the Article 39(a) session. Perhaps the prosecution team was aware of this. LTC Lakin says he heard the lead TC, LTC Steven Brodsky, tell LTC Lakin’s escorts that he didn’t want LTC Lakin signing autographs, shaking hands, and kissing babies after the hearing, so they were to escort him out immediately. LTC Lakin said LTC Brodsky said something to the effect that they should taser him and throw him in the back of the van if necessary.
Mr. Jensen opined that by making such a threat, the TC was attempting to make LTC Lakin “capitulate by nefarious means.” Mr. Liddy opined that it was a “foolish thing to do” that indicated that the TC was running scared.
After a break, Mr. Liddy told his radio audience that LTC Lakin wasn’t in the studio because he “had to excuse himself for a few minutes. I believe he’s in the men’s room.” Mr. Liddy took advantage of LTC Lakin’s head call to encourage listeners to call MG Carla Hawley-Bowland, whom he identified as LTC Brodsky’s commanding general (is that right?), to complain about his actions. He also provided her telephone number. After some additional discussion with his other guests, Mr. Liddy said on air: “Franklin, can you see if Colonel Lakin is finished in the men’s room?”
Mr. Farah raised the issue of whether LTC Lakin would be satisfied that President Obama was a natural born citizen if it was demonstrated that he was born in the United States or if LTC Lakin thought that the President’s father’s foreign citizenship would still prevent him from being a natural born citizen. Mr. Jensen cut in and said they would “start with the records in Hawaii and see where to go from there.”
Mr. Jensen said that the government was moving to determine the lawfulness of the orders to LTC Lakin “without a trial,” and that motion would be heard on September 14. I don’t know whether Mr. Jensen is unaware of CAAF’s decision in United States v. New or if he was just demagoguing the issue.
During a discussion of discovery, Mr. Jensen said that any refusal by the Government to produce the requested records from Hawaii would be litigated before the military judge and “I can’t think of a single reason why the government would adopt the Government’s position.” (That’s quite a failure of imagination for a birther. How about Military Rules of Evidence 401 and 402 for starters?)
The show ended with Mr. Liddy, Mr. Farah, and Mr. Jensen discussing the historic nature of the case. Mr. Liddy opined that if LTC Lakin prevailed, every official act of the U.S. government since President Obama was inaugurated, including the health care reform law, would be nullified. Mr. Jensen agreed that “every official act of President Obama would become null and void,” though he said the court-martial itself would not declare that to be the case and that further litigation would be necessary.
All in all, quite an entertaining hour.