So Chelsea (former Bradley) Manning has a fellowship at Harvard Kennedy School’s Institute of Politics. Release here. Prompting the resignation of at least one other fellow, here. H/t JK

25 Responses to “Harvard Adds Fellow with MilJus Experience”

  1. Vulture says:

    So Kyle.  Do you share in my outrage yet?
    JK.  Never change.

  2. DCGoneGalt says:

    Chelsea is a she now.  To call her a “fellow” is transphobic.

  3. stewie says:

    I don’t remotely have the visceral reaction others have to Chelsea Manning or her gender status. However, she is a convicted felon, not a hero, and shouldn’t be a fellow.

  4. Ed says:

    She is not just a felon she is a traitor.

  5. dmw says:

    Only path from high school graduate to Harvard Fellow: commit treason.

  6. Lieber says:

    I could care less about Chelsea being transgender etc. Obviously making her a fellow is stupid.
    However, lets stop this stupid “traitor” language.  Treason has a specific meaning in jurisprudence.  It does not apply in this case and never did.  You’re lawyers.  Words have meanings.  You’re better than this.

  7. jagaf says:

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/09/14/us/chelsea-manning-harvard-fellow-cia.html?action=click&module=Latest&pgtype=Homepage
     
    That didn’t long.
     
    Also, completely agree with Lieber’s comment.

  8. Ed says:

    Lieber,
    You obviously don’t know the meaning of traitor.  It most certainly applies here.
    trai·tor
    ˈtrādər/
    noun
    noun: traitor; plural noun: traitors
    a person who betrays a friend, country, principle, etc.
    “they see me as a traitor, a sellout to the enemy”

    synonyms:
    betrayer, backstabber, double-crosser, renegade, fifth columnist;

  9. Bionic Barry Dylan says:

    Chelsea Manning is absolutely a traitor, even by legal definition.  Per Black’s Law Dictionary, a traitor is not only one who commits treason, but also includes “one who betrays a person, a cause, or an obligation.” 
     
    While he may not stand convicted of treason, he certainly is a traitor.

  10. Michael Korte says:

    On the positive side, this whole course of events should significantly cut into the frequency by which people who went to Harvard cleverly drop mentions of when they were in Harvard in casual conversation.  Always hunt the good stuff, people.

  11. DCGoneGalt says:

    I agree with Harvard’s final decision.  Chelsea is not a “fellow”.  Chelsea stopped being a “fellow” when he decided he wanted to be a she.  That’s settled science.

  12. Bionic Barry Dylan says:

    Michael –
     
    An excellent and wonderful point.  Probably the worst officer I ever had the misfortune of working under could not help but remind everyone at least three times a day that he went to Harvard.

  13. CatalinaWineMixer says:

    The term “traitor” absolutely applies here.  Fits the definition perfectly.  He who thinks otherwise should be ashamed.

  14. Ed says:

    Just for clarification, the “Ed” at 8:43 is not the same as one who posted earlier in the thread.  Different “Ed” here.

  15. k fischer says:

    Bionic Barry,
     
    I worked against a FLEP who had that same annoying quality, i.e. upon introducing himself to my boss he proudly announced that he was a FLEP.  
     
    Has the Army ever had a FLEP who went to Harvard?  Because he or she would start to self-destruct, much like the fembots watching Austin Powers dance to the Divinyls, trying to figure out which status they were going to lead with in their introduction. 
     
    Two thoughts on Chelsea:  (1) John Heder could win an Academy Award portraying her with the right screenplay.  (2)  Somewhere, PFC Manning’s Company Commander who attempted to adsep her out of Basic Training, only to have it be revoked and she was allowed to recycle, is saying, “Don’t forget I told you so.”

  16. slyjackalope says:

    Wouldn’t it be nice if universities went back to teaching students practical skills they need to survive in the workforce?

  17. Bill Cassara says:

    If the FLEP who went to Harvard were a vegan who did Cross Fit, they would have all angles covered.

  18. k fischer says:

    Sir William,
     
    Or were not vegan, but owned a Big Green Egg……..

  19. k fischer says:

    So Kyle.  Do you share in my outrage yet?JK.  Never change.
     

    I’m an educated man (minimally, seeing how I went to FSU), Vulture, but I can’t speak intelligently on what your outrage is.  I’ve even reviewed some of your past comments to figure out what gets your goat, but I’m still in the dark.  Maybe if you explain it to me like I’m a two-year old, then it would sink into my dense skull. And, I seriously want to understand and figure out what makes you tick.

  20. Bill Cassara says:

    Hey, I own a Big Green Egg.

  21. Alfonso Decimo says:

    To save you reading time, I just want to chime in with more of the same. I reviewed the Harvard Institute of Politics website on fellowships. It looks like a pretty sweet deal! I wonder if my employer would allow me to take a year sabbatical. Unfortunately, I am not a network security expert on “the social, technological and economic ramifications of Artificial Intelligence,” but neither is she, so maybe I have a shot!   

  22. DCGoneGalt says:

    Alfonso Decimo:  How hard is it to understand the concept of trans?  Bradley Manning was a man who thought he was a woman so he instantly became a woman named Chelsea Manning.  Chelsea Manning was not a network security expert on the social, technological and economic ramifications of artificial intelligence but Chelsea Manning and Harvard thought she was a national security expert on the social, technological and economic ramifications of artificial intelligence so she instantly became a national security expert on the social, technological and economic ramifications of artificial intelligence. 
     
    It is a simple concept where thoughts and wishes create reality that everyone else must treat as truth.  Pointing out facts that contradict that magical thought and wish-based reality is hateful and you should be ashamed of yourself.

  23. Tom Booker says:

    IOP Director Elmendorf (I think he was with OMB under Clinton) announced today, 15 September, that the designation was probably a bad idea.  The K-school has rescinded the designation, although Manning will still be invited to come spend a day at Harvard.
     
    Here’s a little inside baseball:  Harvard University is a big place.  Some parts of it are more “Harvard” than others.  The College is the real Harvard.  The Kennedy School of Government, which houses the Institute of Politics, is more on the fringe, both literally and figuratively.  It sits on reclaimed ground (well, most of the banks of the Charles are) at what used to be the terminus of the Red Line.  I give credit to President Drew Gilpin Faust for bringing ROTC back to campus after a 40-year absence; she also was responsible for the dedication of a plaque to Harvard’s Medal of Honor winners in Memorial Church.  GEN George Casey (whose father’s name is on the plaque) was the guest speaker.  One of the honorees was Leonard Wood, whom some of you Army folks might know as “lost in the woods.”
     
    Okay, I’m guilty.  But the college I attended in the late 1970’s bears scant resemblance to the institution today, and frankly if it weren’t for my connection to my crew teammates (and the occasional jab that I can take at Elis whom I know), I wouldn’t have much interest in the place anymore.  I don’t knock my ring on the table at every opportunity.
     
    Very respectfully, LTB

  24. former TC says:

    Between the straw-manning of liberals and the blatant transphobia in these comments, you are all setting a really great example for the military justice community. 

  25. Mike "No Man" Navarre says:

    I would agree with FTC. Let’s close this thread (which I will do as soon as I remember how).